The Couch: Conversations About Pop Culture & Why It Matters

Welcome! Everything is fine. Since that’s how The Good Place starts and this, the first episode of a new season, is about The Good Place, it seemed a fitting greeting.

Of course, I could also say that “Everything is fine” is for those of you who are bummed out that your favorite show is coming to an end, as well as those of you who haven’t bothered watching this show because hello, it makes fun of heaven and hell! Well, my friend Jenny and I are here to tell you that everything is fine and also, we have very good reasons for loving The Good Place.

Ready for that? Then you’re going to love this episode!




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