Welcome to a new episode of The Couch. Today I’m here with a new friend, Jessica Howard. Jessica lives in Flagstaff, Arizona, with her husband, two kids, and about 1,200 books. She works in a bookstore, and can pretty much always be found either reading, baking, or talking about books. If you need a good book recommendation, Jessica has you covered! We had so much fun chatting, and I think you’ll get a lot out of our conversation, too.

In this episode, we’re talking about audiobooks that are perfect for road trips. After all, ‘tis the season for road trips, right? And even if you don’t have a trip coming up anytime soon, hopefully you’re starting to get back to quasi-normal life in some ways—and for lots of us, I know that involves a lot of time in the car, often with our kids.

So, Jessica is here to tell us what we can listen to to make those hours and miles go by quicker. Or, at least quieter? And because this is The Couch, where rabbit trails and side notes are always welcome, we also get into a twisty teen TV show and our favorite non-coffee drinks at Starbucks. I’m glad you’re here, friends. Get comfy and enjoy this episode!



  • Starbucks Refreshers and Starbucks Iced Passion Tango Tea
  • Cruel Summer on Hulu


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